Tires are so much more important than drive system imo. If you don't have the tires to back it up then AWD and 4WD can be VERY dangerous (false sense of security), and often is.Well, I had a 2001 CRV with snow tires, and that was the best car I have ever driven in the snow, ice, crap etc. It may be a simple system, but -what- you have grabbing at the snow/ice makes all the difference. While this test assume zero traction in a particular situation that is not quite realistic. That being said, I'd rather have a subaru that will function in the WORST of conditions...then add snow tires to that. LOL.
BTW we have upgraded the CRV to an MDX and it is also good in the snow. Just not quite as good. For me, I'm sure the MDX has a better 4wd setup, but it doesn't have a separate set of snows. I can't wait for a WRX with snow tires...
Ok, so, maybe this is the wrong place (no...it IS the wrong place, but the thread is close to this)...with a set of snows on a 2009 WRX, am I in good shape for the winter? I'm a little nervous about a car with 200+hp in snow, even with awd...does VDC help this out? Just trying to figure out what to do here. I've read the older STis are good with snows, but I don't think I want $400/mo payments (plus buy snows) for an STi when I could get a WRX, be ALMOST as happy, and have $120 /mo in my pocket (plus buy snows). The only thing that would get me to that magical $400 /mo payment would be awesome traction in the snow...awesome being way better than a wrx.Tires are so much more important than drive system imo. If you don't have the tires to back it up then AWD and 4WD can be VERY dangerous (false sense of security), and often is.
I had an accord with snow tires, and it would go places that my 4runner (4wd) with AT tires wouldn't, in the snow anyway. The winter before last in Denver 32" of snow fell in the area where I lived in the span of only a few hours. Most cars were stuck, including jeeps, subarus, etc. I could drive right through it with my FWD and snows. In fact, I could drive through snow that the body of the car didn't even clear, like a snow plow almost. I got asked if that car was AWD a couple times that day (I was helping people push their cars out and stuff).
Put some snows on your subaru, or a car with real 4WD. You will have to try to get stuck (as long as you keep the width of the tire down). I can't wait till winter personally. I love driving in snow, and ski season. Though I still haven't decided whether or not I want to get new snows that won't get eaten up in slightly warmer weather, or if I should just mount my blizzaks.
Great to know, thank you! I had considered getting a LGT instead, just because it weighs more than the WRXs do. This was before the 09 was out. The 08 I drove that was stock was FAST. I was at first excited about the power boost, then nervous. The kind of power in the 09 (stock), while apparently little more than bragging rights (the car is barely 'magazine' faster...) is still a lot of power. Kind of makes me nervous... I know I just need to be careful.last year I COULD NOT GET STUCK when we got a really bad blizzard
I'm talking over a foot of snow on the ground every few hours
in fact, I was so bored, I drove to the auto show. the only other people there were other Subaru owners.
the extra power doesn't matter, but I'd recommend turning OFF the VDC when you're in snow... the computer will get you unstuck but I can get myself unstuck without the weird "grinding" noise.
subaru + snow tires = unstoppable.
algeria sure has alot of problems with snow... especially in summer!the vdc is great for climbing snowy ice covered hills. the system gets you moving instead of spinning out on steep hills. i probably have the worst winter conditions of anyone on this forum and i have not got stuck once last year. getting stuck for me will only come from sliding off the road but the wrx keeps you on the road so no worries. turn off the vdc and have some fun w/ oversteering slippery corners FTW! almost can't wait for winter...