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Thanks for the clarification. I will plan on unbolting the slave cylinder, but not undoing the banjo bolt.

When bleeding the system, did you keep the slave cylinder unbolted, and hold it so that the bleed screw is the highest point?
 
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Thanks for the clarification. I will plan on unbolting the slave cylinder, but not undoing the banjo bolt.

When bleeding the system, did you keep the slave cylinder unbolted, and hold it so that the bleed screw is the highest point?
You want the slave cylinder bolted down when bleeding. so it can rest against the clutch fork. or it would be difficult to get back in. In may be possible to do but I am not sure.
 
And on a somewhat similar note have you ever tried removing the little helper spring thing on the clutch pedal to see if that made any improvement in clutch feel? It is a very popular mod with the 370 and G37 guys. http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/36048-clutch-pedal-too-soft-no-feel-remove-helper-spring.html
Have you ever looked into this?
If you remove the spring all together, the clutch feels a whole lot stiffer since the spring assists in depressing the pedal, but there becomes some play when the pedal is not depressed which gives you a horrible feeling of a sloppy clutch. And once you take it out, god it is impossible to put back in... ask me how I know.
 
If you remove the spring all together, the clutch feels a whole lot stiffer since the spring assists in depressing the pedal, but there becomes some play when the pedal is not depressed which gives you a horrible feeling of a sloppy clutch. And once you take it out, god it is impossible to put back in... ask me how I know.
^ LOL ^ thanks for testing for us, hopefully you can get it back in.
 
Excellent DIY :)

I plan on trying this when I have that area apart to put in my GS master cylinder brace. Recently put in an FX300 clutch (which is segmented, so not as hard to work with as the puck brethren), which feels great 90% of the time, but can have just a little chatter when it's cold/reverse/randomly. It's perfectly drivable, but this might be just a little touch of extra smoothness.

If you want to change more of the fluid than what's lost during disassembly/assembly, do you just keep bleeding the system? i.e. same as you would do a full brake fluid change?

-SJ
 
If you want to change more of the fluid than what's lost during disassembly/assembly, do you just keep bleeding the system? i.e. same as you would do a full brake fluid change?
What i did was use one of those $1-$5 turkey basters, connect a little hose to the end of it, and suck out the old fluid from the reservoir until min, fill up reservoir with new fluid, then start bleeding. I think it worked well for me
 
Just removed the delay valve and it is definitely worth the 30-40min I spent working on it (changed out all the fluid at the same time). I have clutchmasters fx400 6 puck clutch and was having a bunch of chatter when I take off in first and sometimes in 2nd. Now it's almost completely gone (only get chatter every once in a while when taking off. provably because I suck at driving). It feels like I'm driving with the ACT HD Street clutch again. I didn't completely remove the slave cyliner, only loosened the 24mm bolt, removed the two 14mm bolts, and just lifted it out and held it above the reservoir. Only dribbled a little bit of fluid out when I did that.
 
I still am thinking of doing this. I bled my brakes a few days ago and I was going to do this, but I couldn't brake the large bolt loose with and adjustable wrench without fear of rounding it off so I stopped. I will have to go buy the properly sized tool. My 4 puck clutch is often a bit rough going into first, so I think this would help. My only concern is increased driveline shock on hard shifts....
 
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I just got my ACT 6 puck installed and this thing is butter. Just a bit heavy with a quick engagement.
I have driven 3 3G's with this 6 puck installed and they were horrible to drive. The Clutch delay valve removal made a huge difference. I was scared to own a 6 puck before this, now I am pleased with my decision.
 
Any more thoughts on shock load? This must increase the max possible shock load, right? I have the ACT HD and ACT 4 Puck. Should be even rougher than a 6 Puck. Now that it's been a few weeks it's not that bad at all. I'm worried this mod would put more stress on the tranny on extremely hard shifts. I'm torn...
 
I seem to be bumping up a bunch of old threads lately lol. You said you didn't feel much difference, but did revs drop noticeably quicker after depressing the clutch? With my short shifter set on the shortest setting I shift too fast and the revs haven't dropped enough by the time I'm in the next gear
 
Ok I thought this would help and be easier than installing a lightweight crank pulley, but I do plan on getting one. I thought the cdv was was causes the revs to hang up for a second when you depress the clutch, so I figured removing it would make it drop faster
 
Just removed the delay valve and it is definitely worth the 30-40min I spent working on it (changed out all the fluid at the same time). I have clutchmasters fx400 6 puck clutch and was having a bunch of chatter when I take off in first and sometimes in 2nd. Now it's almost completely gone (only get chatter every once in a while when taking off. provably because I suck at driving). It feels like I'm driving with the ACT HD Street clutch again. I didn't completely remove the slave cyliner, only loosened the 24mm bolt, removed the two 14mm bolts, and just lifted it out and held it above the reservoir. Only dribbled a little bit of fluid out when I did that.
OK. I have a built tranny now so I'm less concerned with the shock load and I'm ready go do this. If I use the above method will I even have to replace the fluid?
 
OK. I went ahead and did this. After doing it, I realized that my question above is a dumb one. Since you let a bunch of air into the line, you DO have to bleed the system. Here are some more thoughts:

I have an ACT HD pressure plate, ACT Street Light Flywheel, and ACT 4 Puck Clutch Disk. I've had this setup for about 6 months now, and I've always had chatter when starting from a standstill. If I was on flat ground or a downslope, and wasn't rushed, I could really take my time and it would start with minimal chatter. But if I was uphill or rushed in any way I could get terrible shuddering. I thought I might get used to it, but after 6 months of driving I decided to give this a shot.

Doing this all took me very little time. I have a FMIC, so I did not have to remove anything. There was plenty of room to work. I picked up a 24mm wrench and broke the plug loose. Then I used a 14mm socket with extension to unbolt the slave cylinder from the tranny. Once it was removed I held it up in the air and finished removing the plug for the CDV. I didn't lose any fluid at all doing this method. I did not have to touch the banjo bolt. Here are the parts I pulled out:

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During the process I didn't lose any fluid, but I did let a bunch of air into the system, so I had to bleed it. Once I had the slave cylinder back together and bolted back onto the car, I replaced my fluid with ATE SuperBlue. The whole process did not take long. Probably 5-10min to pull the CDV and 5-10min to bleed the system. Very simple overall.

After doing this I have nearly ZERO chatter. I can basically drive it like normal, and it works perfectly. It is almost like stock again. I will have no problems driving this around town without any shuddering at all. I am very happy with how it turned out. And I can't believe I waited so long to do it! Highly recommended for anyone with a puck-style clutch!
 
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